New Canon announced FINALLY.

[Swampy]

Sorry Melody (and others, it's not the 1Ds...)

The New Canon 1D Mark III apparently has been announced last night.

The whitepaper was sent to me late last night and reading through some of the 63 pages, this camera is pretty awesome. However, only 10.1 mega pixel, the 1Ds replacement should satisfy peoples thirst for super high resolution. Although, we'll have to see what that actually ends up being.

The new dust cleaning system has been put in this model, shutter rated at 300,000 cycles, blah blah blah... I'll have to read more, but a "silent mode"?

Speaking of. I'm off to read more... Here's some of the new and improved features.

• World's fastest AF DSLR with approximately 10 fps continuous shooting in
One-Shot AF or AI Servo AF
• Maximum burst (JPEG Large, compression level 8) approximately 110 shots; RAW,
approximately 30 shots (based on Canon’s testing standards)
• Dual DIGIC III Image Processors for fine detail, natural color reproduction and
high-speed performance
• ISO 100-3200 with ISO speed extension, L = 50, H = 6400
• 14-bit A/D conversion for fine gradation
• Live View in camera and remote, wired and wireless
• New 45-point Area AF sensor with 19 high-precision, cross-type points
(f/2.8 compatible), 26 standard-precision Assist AF points
• New AF point selection methods
• AF micro-adjustment (fine adjustment of AF point of focus)
• Adjustable operation characteristics for AF point selection, shutter release priority
and focus-tracking sensitivity with AI Servo AF
• New methods of AF point expansion during manual AF point selection
• New 10.1-megapixel CMOS sensor, APS-H size
• Improved microlens array and pixel fill factor plus optimized photodiode structure
to increase light-reception efficiency
• Professional EOS Integrated Cleaning System with Self-Cleaning Sensor Unit,
Dust Delete Data acquisition
• RAW, sRAW (new Small RAW), RAW+JPEG, sRAW+JPEG, JPEG+JPEG simultaneous recording
• Increased shutter durability of approximately 300,000 cycles
• Large and bright 3.0-inch LCD monitor with 230,000 pixels and wide viewing angle
• Five custom WB settings
• Selectable noise reduction for high ISO images, 50% less shadow noise for all images
• Selectable Highlight Tone Priority
• High-speed shutter with 1/8000 sec. maximum speed and high-speed X-sync at
1/300 sec. with EX Speedlites
• Startup time approx. 0.2 sec.
• Shutter release time lag approx. 55 ms. (approximately 40 ms. at maximum aperture
with C. Fn IV -13-1) and viewfinder blackout time 80 ms. at 1/250 or higher
• Compatible with SDHC (SD High-Capacity) memory cards as well as high capacity
CF cards
• Compatible with USB 2.0 Hi-Speed image transfer
• Faster writing to memory card
• High-magnification, wide-coverage viewfinder and improved focusing screen with
100% finder coverage
• 63-zone metering sensor for more stable exposure control with ambient light and flash
• High-capacity, lightweight and compact lithium-ion battery with estimated
battery life display
• Enhanced recording options include automatic switching of recording media,
separate recordings to media and identical recordings to multiple media
• Silent mode for single images
• Image copying and backup to external media enabled
• ISO speed safety shift
• ISO speed and metering pattern always displayed in viewfinder and on top LCD
data panel
• New control layout with SET button, AF On button and Multi-Controller
• Displayable camera settings and better image information during playback
• Histogram display, jump display, error code display, and shooting settings display
• Chassis, mirror box, and exterior covers made of magnesium alloy
• Maintains water resistance with new 580EX II Speedlite
• Personal Functions consolidated with Custom Functions, resulting in 57 Custom
Functions in 4 groups
• Custom Function settings can be registered and called up
• Camera settings can be saved and read
• Camera's basic settings can be registered and applied
• New “My Menu” function can be registered and displayed at startup
• Camera direct printing (PictBridge) improved and DPOF print ordering provided
• Direct printing of RAW and sRAW images
• Direct image transfer
• Wireless/wired LAN for image transfers via new WFT-E2A dedicated Wireless
File Transmitter
• External USB recording media and GPS unit usable via the WFT-E2A
• Verification data can be generated, encrypted and appended to the image with new
Original Data Security Kit OSK-E3
• Compatible with original image verification system
• Speedlite Custom Functions settable with the camera when the 580EX II Speedlite
is attached
• New software package includes Digital Photo Professional 3.0 and EOS Utility 2.0
• New EF 16–35mm f/2.8L II USM lens features improved peripheral image quality

[Swampy]

Here's the news item on dpreview if you thought I was kidding...

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0702/07022208canoneos1dmarkiii.asp

And a little bit on engadget.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/21/canons-eos-1d-mark-iii-dslr-with-live-lcd/

[Swampy]

Here's the Official Canon website on it:
http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/eos1dm3/

After looking at some of the sample images, the noise. All I can say is WOW. ISO 800 looks like my 1Ds's ISO 400.

For those who didn't get to see the sample images before Canon's site got nailed, the images all look awesome. The more the day presses on, the busier their site will become and the less likely you'll be able to get to the sample images. :(

[GaryB]

This looks to be ideal for my needs - I will be joining the queue!

[sandman]

Silent mode???
Any chance of Melody being sent one :D

Brian

[Swampy]

I find the 14bit processing a huge plus. Should provide much smoother gradations going from somewhere around 4,000 tones to 16,000.

I'm disappointed that this is the second release of the 1D without any updates of the 1Ds. But, if they have all this and the higher resolution in the new 1Ds, it will be one monster of a camera, not that this one isn't.

This might be the signal that kills the rumor of the new 1Ds having the high speed crop mode though too.

The white paper on this Mark III really goes into details about all the new features. If you can't find it on the web (I haven't, but haven't looked very hard cause it was emailed directly to me), send me a PM and your email address and I'll send it to you.

[Swampy]

Ahh. Found someone who has the white paper up...

http://www.jirvana.com/pdfs/EOS_1D_Mark_III_WP_070221.pdf

[Melody]

Silent mode???
Any chance of Melody being sent one :D

Brian

There's always a chance :tongue2: wouldn't count on anything keeping me silent unless I want to be :D

Hmm...well I was going to say a large jewelry counter, or a auto show...or...nope...ask Howard..I still talk... I like that one and that one and OMG look at that! :lol: Hey he loves to take me shopping he says my face and excitement is just like kid in a candy store...I'm just a tad more expensive.

If I ever get back into more sports type stuff this model might interest me, it's doubtful though. Honestly can't see the extra 2fps needed, I always prefered the D2x over the 1dmII and I shot thousands of frames with each.

Melody

[AzRich]

14 bit? Isn't that fuji territory?

10fps is pretty close to making movies. 3 second movies, but movies none the less.

So is this a full frame camera, or a 1.3x or 1.6x?

I think 10MP is enough for just about anybody. Now that 10MP is pretty standard (well, kind of) I'd like to see better IQ as in DR and noise. Sorry I couldn't find a two letter abbrv for noise :)

[Swampy]

It's 1.3x crop, like the whole 1D line (I know, Canon's not your forte... :) )

10fps isn't even halfway to making movies, although, there was a movie produced using the 1D Mark II, but it was shot frame by frame, not 8.5fps style.

My IQ must be a little low tonight... IQ? What's that? They have refined the autofocus and metering, which could translate into a smarter camera.

DR? They have improved it as well as the noise levels. I think the white paper stated something about having 1 stop more range and the noise reduction in the double digic processors has improved quite a bit. Like I mentioned, looking at one of the sample images, the ISO 800 looks like ISO 400 on my 1Ds Mark II where before, ISO 250ish looked like ISO 400 on the 1Ds.

We'll have to see if all of this really pans out in the real world though.

I was hoping for a new 1Ds that would perform similarly to the 1D in terms of frames per second at a much higher resolution ala Nikon's high speed crop, along with more resolution at a reduced speed at more than the current 1Ds resolution. Now I'll probably end up replacing my 1D Mark II and also picking up the new 1Ds when it comes out. I say this now because I originally wanted to use my current 1Ds as a secondary and the new 1Ds as primary, being able to take advantage of some higher speed, but they changed the back controls on the 1D Mark III and I'm sure they'll be doing the same with the new 1Ds.

There is always that other part of the rumor that the new 1Ds will be a smaller body and if that's the case, I don't know what I'll do as I want to keep both my cameras the same functionality-wise.

[AzRich]

10fps is close to 1/2 way, which is 12 fps.

1 stop more DR? That would be nice. I would think that 14bit vs 12bit would be 2 stops more, but either way : more is more. And without using more space to store pix!

IQ= Image quality.

The higher ISOs being cleaner is also a nice thing. If you have your money invested in good glass, then you'll see these benefits. And I know you do!

[S_Leeper]

If their silent mode was for those in front of the camera I would buy in a heartbeat...

But, I always wondered when dslr mfg's would do something for those special situations (golf, church, intimate moments--but not as a voyeour[sp?] hopefully :) )

I was kind of thinking that the live preview might be a pre cursor for camera with an electronic shutter... I'm assuming the live preview uses mirror lock up... but seem to remember one of the dslr's not lifting the mirror/prism & light going through it to expose????

[Swampy]

If their silent mode was for those in front of the camera I would buy in a heartbeat...

But, I always wondered when dslr mfg's would do something for those special situations (golf, church, intimate moments--but not as a voyeour[sp?] hopefully :) )

I was kind of thinking that the live preview might be a pre cursor for camera with an electronic shutter... I'm assuming the live preview uses mirror lock up... but seem to remember one of the dslr's not lifting the mirror/prism & light going through it to expose????

You got it. A mirror lockup type of function is used to accomplish this.

This live preview looks very functional. You can not only see what you're going to shoot on the LCD, but if you tether up via USB or use the wireless transmitter, you can do the live preview on a computer screen as well. It would appear that you can use the TV out to do the same thing too.

During all of this, you can magnify 5 or 10x to check focus and use the DOF Preview to see actual depth of fields in real time (not like looking through the viewfinder and seeing a muddy dark looking thing). Many other features to this as well. Those interested in this feature should download the whitepaper and check out page 23.

The Silent mode operation (Page 34)...Not so sure how much this will be of benefit to people. Have to see it when it come out I guess. They slow the mechanism down and so forth to quiet it down, but the whitepaper states 77db normal operation sound and 70db in silent mode. Not much difference. I think the Nikon D2x is already below 70db already. haha.

[Swampy]

YouTube video showing a sample 1D Mark III being fired at 10fps as well as live view mode...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S3TsknG6IA

More on the live view mode:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhmgCoShfys

Seperate 10fps demo to 110 frames and a few after the buffer finally fills.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHoh2hCEZTE

1D Mark IIn vs. 1D Mark III shutter speed and also at the end, showing off a really nice feature I hadn't read about yet. When you open the door of your card while the camera is reading, most cameras shut off and you lose everything that hasn't been written and possibly screw up your card. The Mark III has a warning when you open the door and continues to write.

Of course, this doesn't prevent the obvious bad thing from happening if you ignore the warning and eject the card anyway. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfZzmfjygwQ&NR

Was bored while eating lunch...