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sandman
January 3rd, 2004, 02:08 PM
There are 2 threads going around right now about privacy laws regarding candids posted on this forum ,
My question does'nt relate to the rights or wrongs , legal or illegal. It's more to do with the fact of how easy is it for a member of the public to find us .
Now before you all jump on me and say it's easy you just put S2 in a search engine .
While this forum was down , thinking it was my settings i entered ''S2'' in goggle i found it on page 22. and that was the old forum , i have'nt checked on swampys yet .
How did we find it .
I bought my camera and wanted to find out more about it , so went into goggle and found this place , how about you . Word of mouth?, or did you do what i did ,.
Just interested.

Brian

bobt
January 3rd, 2004, 02:26 PM
Good points, sandman. I found the original site via a google search. I posted a few, then got sidetracked and didn't visit for several months. During the hiatus, the site went down. The second time, there was an "announcement" on Nikonians that the site was back up.

Igor
January 3rd, 2004, 02:48 PM
Brian, I found it exactly as you did.

Swampy
January 3rd, 2004, 02:50 PM
Is Goggle the UK version of Google? :D

I too found the s2pro.com site from a google search. However, it was more like on page 1 or 2 for me, but I don't remember what I was looking for. I just litterally stumbled on it and stumbled again into the forums. What a lucky guy I was!

sandman
January 3rd, 2004, 03:31 PM
Good old swampy , it's like having your own private school teacher . your right of course (google) just was'nt thinking when i typed it.
Brian

Igor
January 3rd, 2004, 03:41 PM
How I wished this forum had a spell check! It has now!!! :)

Scubagrapher
January 3rd, 2004, 03:43 PM
Swampy just will not cut Sandman a break. But I have to admit, it is fun to watch. :D

S_Leeper
January 3rd, 2004, 04:02 PM
Saw this site referenced at dpreview.com

sandman
January 3rd, 2004, 04:03 PM
My late dad used to tell me it's better to be picked on than ignored , it means you've been excepted .

Thanks for always picking on me Bryan.

now i'll go and stand in the corner.
.................................................. ...............

How do you make an irishman mad ,

put him in a barrel and tell him to stand in a corner.

Brian

Linda G
January 3rd, 2004, 04:45 PM
Better yet, put your name or nickname in google or goggle and search the 'image' area. whoo hoo!

Swampy
January 3rd, 2004, 05:10 PM
Heh. And how do you reward that Irishman after you've done all that? Tell him to sit in the barrel and fill it with Guiness. ;):beerchug:

Scubagrapher
January 4th, 2004, 02:04 PM
Hey, I'm half Irish. I resemble these remarks. :beerchug:

sandman
January 4th, 2004, 02:22 PM
Never met an irishman yet who was offended by irish jokes , most of them have got better ones than you have .
Love the irish , great people, north or south .
3 of my grandparents were irish . so i would do nothing to intentionly insult them .
Last 4 american presidents were of irish decent, maybe more not sure about Carter or Ford.

Brian

proberts
January 4th, 2004, 05:31 PM
Google's result sets change over time, and like most full-text search engines, which keywords you use changes the result set.

There are two approaches for search engines and privacy, you can do all you can to stay out of them, or you can make sure there are so many hits that it's difficult to find interesting results.

For Google results to get better, the site needs to be linked to in more places- other things can also affect the rankings, there are books devoted to the subject of things you can do with Google. There have been some good Google poisonings in the last couple of years as jokes, searching for "French military victories" (still works as of today) and "Weapons of mass destruction" (also seems to still work)- they both started as poisoning the result set, then got linked from all over, and stayed high in the ratings- both are more effective if you go to www.google.com, type the search term in the box, and hit "I'm feeling lucky."

Paul

Linda G
January 4th, 2004, 05:36 PM
Paul,

I was referring to the selections at google of doing a straight search, a web search, images search, groups, directory or news search with the options above the type in bar.

proberts
January 4th, 2004, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by Linda G
Paul,

I was referring to the selections at google of doing a straight search, a web search, images search, groups, directory or news search with the options above the type in bar.

(I was actually answering Brian, but still)

Right- for Web, the results are changable, as they are for images if you want to poison google's view of things (or just have google not spider your site) Groups is a USENET search, so you can change it, but it takes different techniques than the Web/Image searches. News relies on links to sites that Google thinks is a news site- if you do the occasional interview, it's good to find when it hit the Web.

Paul

JPS
January 5th, 2004, 08:04 AM
Originally posted by sandman
...Love the irish , great people, north or south .
3 of my grandparents were irish . so i would do nothing to intentionly insult them .
Last 4 american presidents were of irish decent, maybe more not sure about Carter or Ford.
...that last phrase proves that it doesn't prove anything ;)

...as of my discovering of the S2 Pro Forum, I read the URL in some post, on DPReview... and I'm very glad I found this site, as it's far more lively (and funny) than DPReview lately...

proberts
January 6th, 2004, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by Theo Lumens
For me it was Google.

Are there any other search engines left nowadays?

Microsoft's doing something or other with MSN Search to try to get Google out of the market, though it doesn't seem to be as good, especially searching on Linux (I wonder why?) Eventually, expect them to couple it with the desktop shell (explorer) stuff more, and into Internet Explorer. The desktop search stuff already goes to MS for something or other, but I'd expect serious embrace and extend there, given Google's revenues.

Most of the other big players have moved to Google's engine, even if they spider themselves. Yahoo was doing that, not sure what they're doing since they purchased Inktomi though.

Altavista still seems to be around, not sure if they still use their own engine though- they'd have had to have done a new OS at some point, given DEC/Compaq/HP's Alpha demise.

There's also dogpile, Ask Jeeves, alltheweb adn a few others.

A lot of them are doing way heavy sponsored search results stuff these days to keep the lights on.

Paul